Thoughts on brainwashing children to spread your philosophy?
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#812357)
It is a crime in my eyes.
says Tiffanee on Jul 31st 17 (#2619611)
Teaching children about God is one thing.
Hailing a lying traitor as messiah, is another.
says Budwick on Jul 31st 17 (#2619614)
So if we stay on the topic of my post are you then saying that the video is innocent and all it is a good thing as all it does is teaching children about God?
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619620)
I've learned from previous discussions with you that 'staying on topic' is not one of your strong suits.
says Budwick on Jul 31st 17 (#2619621)
Says the man who talks about Obama when the post is about Christian children....
I will give you one more chance to give me a decent reply and keep in the spirit of this website of exchanging and debating opinions. .
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619622)
Most Christian summer camps aren't like that. But the Pentecostal faith usually goes way over the top. I went to a summer camp one year. We said prayers when having a meal, which is a good thing. My family still does it. We had about an hour of bible study, and then it was crafts, swimming, fun and games. Nothing like what is portrayed in that video. Instead of teaching that's a scare tactic.
says StarzAbove on Jul 31st 17 (#2619630)
Thank you for your reply.
I really think it is criminal what they do in these video's and there are many more of these type of video's.
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619632)
I agree, it's more like cult thinking, and that's dangerous.
says StarzAbove on Jul 31st 17 (#2619635)
I notice you never push your religion here. It's nice to see you can be a Christian and not hate Obama and worship Trump.
says Random_Thoughts on Jul 31st 17 (#2619706)
Hypocrites. They spew forth Christianity one minute and pure hate the next. The most hateful posts ever put forward on this site have come from those claiming to be Christian.
says Tiffanee on Jul 31st 17 (#2619713)
It's the old boy's club mentality. Bet there are more than a few KKK members that would tell you they are Christian.
says Random_Thoughts on Aug 3rd 17 (#2621323)
I don't push my religion, people have the right to believe what they want. I admire Obama, don't hate Trump, just hate what he's doing to our country. He's an embarrassment to all of us.
says StarzAbove on Jul 31st 17 (#2619716)
I will second that RT
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619717)
Cultish behavior. Bottom line.
says Carla on Jul 31st 17 (#2619636)
Yes. From birth these kids are indoctrinated. No choices. No honesty.
says Carla on Jul 31st 17 (#2619641)
yeah kin dof like liberals and their kids, only liberals don;t like to stop at their own kids they want to force everyones kids to be indoctinated by liberals propaganda
says sh9683 on Jul 31st 17 (#2619675)
Broad brush much? I see some liberal Christians here. So what is your point?
says Random_Thoughts on Jul 31st 17 (#2619707)
We all want our children to adopt a similar philosophy to ourselves (deep down, even if we encourage them to question everything and develop their own ideas), but there's a line crossed with these "camps" into disturbing cult-like influence.
says Thibault on Jul 31st 17 (#2619647)
It's a crime, they should be punished. They are sick people. I'm tired of the sickos using God and Jesus to send out the wrong message.
says Markymark on Jul 31st 17 (#2619655)
I agree. "God and Jesus to send out the wrong message."
The same goes for other Gods like Allah and all the crimes that gets done and proselytized in His name. I mean suicide belts.... there is no difference between that and the video.
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619663)
Agree!! One might be more violent, but they are both sending the wrong message.
says Markymark on Jul 31st 17 (#2619666)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO3NBqT3LBc yeah you liberals are a fine one to speak
says sh9683 on Jul 31st 17 (#2619669)
IT reminds me of the indoctrination of the kids is the churches that I just posted..... Exactly the same crime, sick really.
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619685)
No worry about the some Trump lovers letting their kids hang out around the Ku Klux Klan.
Note that I say "some"...
says Random_Thoughts on Jul 31st 17 (#2619708)
lol, evidence please. Hilary loves the KKK, some of her close friends are KKK members, yet you liberals love to lie and try to make republicans be the KKK lovers, lol
says sh9683 on Jul 31st 17 (#2619869)
Evidence please. Oh, that's right. You can't provide that.
says Random_Thoughts on Aug 3rd 17 (#2621319)
figures, no evidence yet you believe your BS to be true. typical ignorant liberal
try and deny words coming out of her own mouth if you wish. but she said it.
now prove your BS that we conservatives love KKK, when that is so far from the truth!
says sh9683 on Aug 3rd 17 (#2621383)
Six seconds of a youtube video is your source? Bwah ha ha ha. Now that is funny.
So Hillary is not our elected president and you want to offer that to show us why tRump is your man???
I would love to show you countless images of people that support the KKK and your man, but I rather you do the work yourself. Just skip Faux as your source and try and have an open mind.
says Random_Thoughts on Aug 3rd 17 (#2621535)
says Random_Thoughts on Aug 3rd 17 (#2621538)
I like washing children's brains. You just have to be gentle with the scrub and at least try to avoid unnecessary oxidation. Rusty nerve-endings may cause the neurons to misfire, leading to psychological/cognitive impairment of various degrees. Such mishaps would, in practical sense, render the test subjects useless for further stages of suggestion via NLP and alternative techniques.
says ZonkeyBalls on Jul 31st 17 (#2619670)
says sh9683 on Jul 31st 17 (#2619671)
IT reminds me of the indoctrination of the kids is the churches that I just posted..... Exactly the same crime, sick really.
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619683)
and what about indoctrination in pseudo science evolution? or in liberal beliefs about **** ed?
teaching kids about Jesus is not indoctrination, and parents have the choice, you liberals don't allow for choice, you force everyone to believe evolution, and you believe you have the rigth to force your **** ed on every child, us christians support the choice.
says sh9683 on Jul 31st 17 (#2619672)
How about you post a debate on those bloody liberals and their brainwashing?
and stay on topic and debate a very bad side of a certain sect of Christianity?
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619678)
Not all liberals. Get your facts straight. Many Christians ARE liberals.
says Random_Thoughts on Jul 31st 17 (#2619709)
Have you ever spoken to StarzAbove here? She's an unapologetic Christian, but she is liberal.
Still can't wrap your brain and your broad brush around the fact that many selfless liberals are Christian.
says Random_Thoughts on Aug 3rd 17 (#2621328)
...i didn't think so.
says Random_Thoughts on Aug 3rd 17 (#2621539)
Kids need to be indoctrinated early for it to stick. Religions would have a difficult time surviving otherwise.
That being said, I think it's natural for parents to want to instill their "values" onto their own children. That has been happening since time immemorial.
says PhilboydStudge on Jul 31st 17 (#2619697)
There is a difference however to say to your kids, "I believe in this.... I would like it if you do too but do some research" to what thye do in the video. My heart breaks from those vulnerable kids.
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619698)
The Ku Klux Klan comes to mind. That is the sort of brainwashing that ruins innocent kids who don't start life hating anyone.
I am less concerned with groups that teach religion, especially if it doesn't harm others.
says Random_Thoughts on Jul 31st 17 (#2619705)
My parents taught by example. They took us to church, but they didn't make us go.
says StarzAbove on Jul 31st 17 (#2619718)
Those people a **** crazy. Jesus doesn't want his followers to behave like lunatics. That is NOT how a real Christian treats children; it's supposed to be gentle and loving, not maniacal.
says JerryHendrickson on Jul 31st 17 (#2619738)
I am glad you use the word ****, that is how I feel and there are many more examples, with different churches and different kids.
It makes me very angry and yes, you are right they are NOT Christians. They are criminals and should be prosecuted.
says voxlug on Jul 31st 17 (#2619741)
That church is living by the Old Testament. Stone age stuff; barbaric. I don't think God minds if I use the word "****." I don't go to church; it think that people need to learn something as important as spirituality for themselves, not follow someone else's idea of what it means
says JerryHendrickson on Jul 31st 17 (#2619754)
I'm guessing then, that you are just as angry at Muslims who teach their children to hate Jews and anyone else who isn't Muslim?
says beachbum on Aug 13th 17 (#2628474)
There is a definite creepy factor, to what I saw in that video. I have an uneasy feeling that any one those more impressionable children, might one day wield a "hammer" on more than a ceramic cup, in their passion to stamp out "sin" in the name of Jesus.
says Piper2 on Aug 1st 17 (#2619989)
I could only watch a few seconds of that, it reminded me of my parents lounge room on a larger scale when they became born again into some kind of fundamentalist branch of Catholicism and used to hold these strange gatherings yelling and shouting in a different language. It would scare the crap out of my sister and I, we would hide out the back. A couple of times they tried to force me to take part but I would get really upset and they would send me out. They had better luck with my sister because she was younger, but that didn't last long. I just never understood why they changed so drastically. Our family was never the same, we were never close again. We always felt that they swapped us for their religion. My dad has Alzheimers now and has vague memories. He's tried over the later years in his own way to get us closer again but my parents lost too many years emotionally detached from us for it to be repaired
says OzSurfer on Aug 1st 17 (#2620195)
It really is time that we start acknowledging the damage that the fundamental aspect of religion does and stop it.
I am so sorry to hear what happened to you. I don't blame your parents, I blame the church.
says voxlug on Aug 1st 17 (#2620197)
Thanks, and you are right about that. I've tried hard to block that part of my life out and move on. I'd been really successful but when my marriage ended and I was on my own, for some reason it brought it all back. My parents were just pawns in the whole thing although they had a responsibility to us kids. I think if they could have pursued it and left us out of it would have been much better for the family.
says OzSurfer on Aug 1st 17 (#2620201)
That is so sad.
says beachbum on Aug 13th 17 (#2628475)
It's been a constant struggle since to remain objective when it comes to religion but I think I'm doing ok mostly :) People on here for the most part have helped me keep things in perspective, but still I rarely talk about it.
says OzSurfer on Aug 14th 17 (#2628791)
I understand - I'm a very private person.
says beachbum on Aug 14th 17 (#2628971)
This is how you ruin humanity, by brainwashing gullible children, forcing your belief, telling them what to think. In the end you get brainwashed fanatic retards who can't think because they don't have anything else but what was forced down their throats!
My solution would be to slap the children to make them forget all the BS they were forced, punch the brainwashers even harder and educate children on all points of view and teach them to think so they can make their own rational decision!
says Sunny_the_skeptic on Aug 1st 17 (#2620275)
No but I'm not liberal either
says sh9683 on Aug 13th 17 (#2627984)
At what extent does spreading an idea become brainwashing or propaganda?
says Willcooper on Aug 13th 17 (#2628041)
when you tell everyone they must agree with you, and call you names like racist, homophobe, transphobe bigot etc etc if you disagree, if they force schools to teach it to kids, and threatened to remove the child from the parents if the parents don't bow to their wishes.
says sh9683 on Aug 13th 17 (#2628281)
This question extends to politics for sure but thats not all the question is about. It pertains to all information not just controversial topics but mundane as well.
says Willcooper on Aug 13th 17 (#2628384)
Surely propaganda isn't just name calling. It seems more complex than that to me atleast.
says Willcooper on Aug 13th 17 (#2628412)
It'd be best to eliminate the person, or people, who'd be setting this up for their benefit. I can't think of a scenario when brainwashing would be freely acceptable to both sides of the issue.
says PartyOfOne on Aug 13th 17 (#2628045)
BOYCOTT ALL ANONYMOUS POSTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
says LorraineTwevlehundredRaineTwelvehundred on Aug 13th 17 (#2628047)
This was tiffanee's post. She left.
says Carla on Aug 13th 17 (#2628078)
I teach by example, not by force.
says Masha on Aug 13th 17 (#2628107)
You mean little things like "Columbus Discovered America"? Like the idiotic common core math curriculum? Like the "Safe" curriculums at multiple Colleges? The millions of indoctrinated children into opposing religions daily? This world is so screwed up it is amazing! Nobody should teach anybody anything anymore. Start over.
says DW2 on Aug 13th 17 (#2628112)
Religion is a cancer on society, the end.
says Thedudeyouhatetomeet on Aug 13th 17 (#2628132)
especially the liberals religion of climate change, homosexuality, trans, and such that is the real cancer on society
says sh9683 on Aug 13th 17 (#2628282)
That video is just a little bit creepy, but it reminded me of a summer camp I went to that was sponsored by my parents' church. My camp experience was actually nice. We lived in bunks in cabins next to a beautiful lake. We didn't have to listen to any religious preaching lectures. We had fun all day making various crafts (although they had religious themes), swimming in the lake in the afternoon and hiking around the fields on the campgrounds and sitting around a campfire after dark, laughing and roasting marshmallows. Yeah, we sang some religious kinds of songs around the campfire, but it was done in a fun way and everybody seemed to be happy.
says goblue1968 on Aug 13th 17 (#2628303)