“Goebbels was in favor of free speech for views he liked. So was Stalin. If you’re really in favor of free speech, then you’re in favor of freedom of speech for precisely the views you despise. Otherwise, you’re not in favor of free speech.” ― Noam Chomsky (+11)
says Maze on Aug 8th 18 (#821833)
So i take it that you're against all the stuff trump has said about Kaepernick then?
says DWF on Aug 8th 18 (#2801001)
Trump is entitled to express his opinion, just as Kaepernick is entitled to express his opinion.
Complaining that the NFL shouldn't allow players to kneel during the national anthem isn't the same as going out and silencing those players by having them banned from social media.
I haven't heard anyone on the right suggest that Kaepernick should be prevented from speaking his mind on social media.
says Maze on Aug 8th 18 (#2801026)
That's why I promote posts I disagree with to the HomePage.
says VicZinc on Aug 8th 18 (#2801002)
I've always been an advocate for free speech, but it is a slippery slope. Take the **** industry, they have a right to say and act any way they want, that's freedom of speech, but has it been beneficial to the country on a whole? Just one example, I'm sure there are many more people can come up with.
says Flrdsgns on Aug 8th 18 (#2801027)
I have an unpopular view about that, because I agree with the Noam Chomsky quote.
There are varying shades of what people can freely say with impunity of course...always has been.
says Piper2 on Aug 9th 18 (#2801069)
it's why I don't Block anyone
say what you want
because I damn sure will
one is Free to listen and agree or get Offended
says Neanderthal_Momdoer on Aug 9th 18 (#2801072)
You do lnow that potus has deemed all but obvious conservative media as the enemy of the people...right?
Same concept of stalin and goebbels.
If he was still just a businessman voicing an opinion, that would be just that...an opinion. But as potus, it is an administrative stance. And those are usually acted upon.
Free speech for trump is only valid if it agrees with his views and ignores his actions.
says Carla on Aug 9th 18 (#2801116)
So a president doesn't have the right to call out the media when he believes they're being untruthful? Or is it only okay when the left does it?
Headline: Obama rails against fake news
Headline: Obama Calls His Critics "Enemies"
WASHINGTON — The Internal Revenue Service apologized Friday for subjecting Tea Party groups to additional scrutiny during the 2012 election, but denied any political motive.
says Maze on Aug 10th 18 (#2801395)
Maze you know Progressives are really all about free speech !!!! ...(as they simultaneously strategize how they can rally folks and legislators around any speech THEY decide to be worthy of the adjective hate as part of an aggressive push to SHUT IT DOWN legally and/or mob force, as opposed to just publicly disagreeing with it, while also simultaneously touting themselves to be THE tolerable ones)
Bet the Obama admin didn't criticize this...remember?
(I wish I could forget it, but somehow, I can't)
says JohnW on Aug 13th 18 (#2802199)
Can you imagine the howls of rage from the left if kids were made to sing an updated version of that song? The Teachers' Union would have a collective heart attack.
Mm, mm, mm!
He said that all good women and men
Will make America great again.
Mm, mm, mm!
He said we must be fair today,
Stop over-taxing people's pay.
Mm, mm, mm!
Mm, mm, mm!
says Thinkerbell on Aug 13th 18 (#2802203)
Great chant TB!!!
There's no words descriptive enough that would come close to matching the public OUTRAGE!!!!!!
Millions of Progressives screaming at the sky would be like hearing a feather hit the floor compared to the noise that would be part of the hysteria on triple-strength steroids.
says JohnW on Aug 13th 18 (#2802206)
I'd fight hardest to protect the offensive speech, it's informative. I like to know who I'm dealing with.
What I don't support is the absurd notion that free speech is consequence free. Just as one has the right to say something, another has the right to challenge it. Furthermore, we also have the right to disassociate ourselves from those spewing offensive horse-crap.
No one, and I mean no one has the right to a platform from which to speak.
says ForkNdaRoad on Aug 9th 18 (#2801348)
Wait what Stalin?! Mr. Joseph "I will put you and your family in a gulag" Stalin was pro free speech?
says Sunny_the_skeptic on Aug 10th 18 (#2801663)
Oh my history teacher would love this. She's an avid "lover" of communism as in she'd rip them to pieces. She's the nerd who read "forbidden books" during the communism regime in Bulgaria, these little pioneers as you call them were called "Комсомолци" Komsomols in English, basically the brainwashing organization that dealt with the growing new generations.
says Sunny_the_skeptic on Aug 10th 18 (#2801675)
Ah, the "APPROVED" works of art.
says Sunny_the_skeptic on Aug 10th 18 (#2801683)
I had a co-worker who went to college in Communist Poland. Naturally, courses in Marxism were mandatory.
He told me that about 10% of the students were true believers, and another 10% went along with the content because they thought their prospects for a cushy government job would be better. The rest of the students regarded it as nonsense, but of course wrote what they were supposed to write on exams and essays in order to pass the courses.
says Thinkerbell on Aug 10th 18 (#2801690)
I'm glad that the fanatics weren't many. Of course people would tolerate the nonsense, it's wise to tolerate it enough to get a cozy life, "live to fight another day is a good motto in this case. Luckily the USSR didn't last very long.
says Sunny_the_skeptic on Aug 10th 18 (#2801698)
I can assure you that in Stalinist Russia you were completely free to say anything Stalin agreed with.
says Maze on Aug 10th 18 (#2801674)
says Sunny_the_skeptic on Aug 10th 18 (#2801676)